Saturday, March 6, 2010

Some thoughts on "Self" & "Compassion"

Some Conversations on Facebook
Sati Shankar Compassion is the footing which comes only when we realise, whatever we call, the Buddha, the "Self", or whatever one name it....which pervades in ALL and every one, the same Self.This brings Equality in Vision, and we become Samdarshi.
Then we realise what we feel,suffer or face is same for others also and Compassion is seeded in our thought and behaviour.
about an hour ago ·

David Holmes Compassion, Yes, but Self in the universal sense in not BuddhaDhamma. What is based on self cannot be married into the family of non-self.
You cannot absorb Buddhism into Hinduism.

Sati Shankar I understand the riddle between the two.And working in the line Coomaraswamy enlightened. As summarily but brilliantly presented by AKC in his "Hinduism and Buddhism". Buddhism doesn't reject the idea of a "Self" but only denies that our smaller self, our ego, is a real essence with unity and transcendence.
This is one of the most common misunderstandings about Buddhism. *Anatta* (Sanskr. *anatman*), no-self, is exclusively used in reference to elements of psycho-physical vehicle, the *skandhas*, aggregates (“All these aggregates are anicca, dukkha, and anatta.”).
The so-called "Doctrine of Anatta" exists only in relation with the *skandhas*. It does not claim that no Self beyond the *skandhas* exists. In fact, the Buddha emphasizes the importance of the eternal element when he says:

"There is, O monks, an Unborn, Unoriginated, Uncreated, Unformed. Were there not, o monks, this Unborn, Unoriginated, Uncreated, Unformed, there would be no escape from the world of the born, originated, created, formed." (~ Udana, 80-81)

Modernist anti-soul doctrines are essentially nothing more than atheist propaganda by people who are afraid to deal with such "super-natural" elements of reality.

David Holmes I can see the cultural perspective which you refer to, but I would suggest your reading quite open-mindedly through the books In the BPS Wheel Series edited by Venerable Nyanaponika Maha Thera. [Buddhist Publication Society, Kandy, Sri Lanka]. Venmerable Nyanaponika had an overall vision of what should be published based on his thorough knowledge of the original Pali texts. He is the man to talk to, even if he is no longer with us. This is a great self-access learning process opportunity for you. Perhaps the one limitation you should sey yourself is that you read the text free of a cultural point of view and be totally objective about the words of the language

Sati Shankar I am noting down all your suggestions and hints. It is true that I am in learning process and try my best to keep myself open minded.
Though my own bringing up has been in the same geographical and cultural setup whrere Buddhism Originated,
Please keep your suggestions and pointers flowing towards me

David Holmes I also recommend Prof. G.P Malalasekera to you. With the questions you put, you should consult scholars much more knowledgable than me. Come and see.

Sati Shankar Infact, it is going to keep me busy fo rthe rest of my life, It is a journey I started when I was 14,when first found Coomaraswamy,completely independently,mostly self guided and guided by books in libraries.

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